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It's definitely a place worth visiting- gorgeous landscape and a lot of cultural diversity. Well, there is now a new version of this scam, compared to which the old tea scam looks almost harmless!! Sadly, I had to make this experience when I was staying in Kunming the capital of Yunnan province a few weeks ago.
I stayed in the dorm in Camellia Hotel in Kunming, and had to find out the next morning that the two Chinese girls who were the only other 'guests' there I was traveling alone were professional con artists part of a kind of organized gang.
I can tell you, I was really shocked to find out that I had been staying all alone there with them! She was or at least tried to be very cheerful and outgoing, said that she was also traveling on her own, and that she loved to meet people from other countries, and if we didn't want to eat dinner together etc. However, I found her a bit annoying, so I went to eat on my own. This con artist used a different strategy, she was much calmer and let actually me start the discussion.
I was talking a bit to her and it turned out that she, too, was traveling alone something which is in fact extremely unusual for Chinese girls- all the Chinese girls I know prefer to travel in groups and never go on their own!!
And - surprise, surprise! Then she tried to suggest that we could travel together she would know where to buy the tickets for the night train etc etc. Ok, this is getting a bit long. To make it short: no, I didn't get ripped off, because I refused to go with one of the girls to the places they suggested a nice park in Kunming, the train station to buy the tickets, have breakfast together,..
How I found out they were both con artists? Well, first of all, I was getting suspicious when, one after the other, they both inquired so much about my travel plans and tried so hard to get me to go with them to some place. Second, it turned out they were linked up with a guy who was giving them orders; sometimes, one of the girls would go out, and then I heard her discussing with a guy outside.
I was completely shocked to find out that I had stayed alone in the dorm with these two dodgy girls!! Sadly, it wasn't the last time.. When I came back to Kunming after my trip through Yunnan province, I stayed again in a youth hostel. And guess what. The same scam again!
Ok, in the end, I didn't get ripped off, because I found out early enough about the intentions of the two girls. First of all, it means you cannot relax anywhere, if you're not only annoyed by con artists in touristy places, but even in your hostel!! Second, the fact that you're alone in a room with two con artists who are part of an organized gang doesn't make you feel very secure, especially if you're a woman remember, you're in a dorm, and you cannot lock the door at night..
So, I can only advise you to be very careful if you travel on your own through China, especially in Kunming! Try to avoid both Camellia hostel and Kunming Youth Hostel- both are dingy places, and I'm quite sure the staff is working together with the con artist gangs!!
Hope you have a safe trip.. Quote: ''So, I can only advise you to be very careful if you travel on your own through China, especially in Kunming! I think you are touting.
I stayed in the excellent Camellia hotel a few weeks ago and had no problems. Nor did anybody else that was staying there. Everybody I met there was full of praise for the place. Did you actually report any of this to anybody?
Or is your belief that the staff are in on it stop you? The lesson to be learned from this is to stay in hotels with your own room and avoid hostels and backpackers alike.
Thank you Cosmopolita for warning other travellers of the bad experiences you have just had. It seems that not all members appreciate the information given on these boards to keep them safe and sound. That is a big shame because such information is very important for others.
This kind of attitude makes one reluctant to come with his story to make others alert and be vigilant of such cases. I haven't encountered the kind of scam you have just reported but it is very likely from your description.
I was myself targeted by an aggressive cyclo-biker who took me for a short ride to the bank. We had agreed the price in advance to be 3 yuan. After beind driven to my destination , he demanded to get yuans. He even took out his "official" pricelist to show me the price.
Of course I insisted to pay only 3. And that is what really happened. I have also been approched by Chinese girls on the street in Beijin. But after having been in China for several months, I was obliged to adapt a very rude attitude towards the locals. No conversation with anyone who comes to speak with you without first being invited. The lesson in my opinion is never to be ashamed and refuse to these "friendly" Chinese people.
Just say 'NO'. I have 'scared' many Chinese by raising my voice a bit or being rude to them as they were to me. An unfriendly "What do you want? It is self-defensive and is unavoidable in certain circumstances. I am probably very naive, but what is the scam?? Obviously there is something going on, but what is the end?? To rob you?? How would you get ripped off in the park? At the train station when you buy tickets you can see the price on the ticket. At breakfast you eat together.. Thanks for this post.
My husband and I will be traveling in Yunnan in about a month. We are usually loners anyway and suspicious of everyone, but this helps us to know that our guards must be up. Nobody has responded yet No need to book in advance for most places, unless there is a particular place that you want to stay. There are many small guesthouses in Lijiang old town and in Dali, while in TLG, I think it is usually the case that you walk until half way, and then stay at one the guesthouses there - I liked Tea Horse.
I think it is good to be suspicious of anything involving money, but to be suspicious of everyone will mean that you miss out on meeting many interesting people. For what it is worth, I was a victim of two very very low-level scams in China, both of which I sort of knew were a scam Mainly my greed thinking I could get something for 5 RMB. In the end, who really cares? I lost maybe RMB out of it ultimately, after taking away the legit cost of a taxi I had to pay 50 RMB for some guy to take me down to the city.
He also didnt drop me off where I wanted to be a specific hotel but it didnt really matter since I just wanted to get to the center area of the city to catch a train. I dont really consider both things scams, but just something to keep in mind when you are traveling. I have no idea what cost what, and each bill was very reasonable and seemed accurate.
I just walked the other way.. The way to get rid of the pretty, friendly girls trying to set you up for a teahouse scam or any of the other numerous scams is to invite them up to your room for a little dalliance.
If they demur and are scammers they go away. If they agree, then they are generally honest ji nu's, take them back to your room and when you are done pay the money for services rendered and go on your merry way. This topic has been locked by a moderator.
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